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. >>> also, john brennan is the father of the drone policy in the u.s. why his nomination could actually be the most important announcement of the day. >>> and later, i'll explain more about why the republican threats to breach the debt ceiling is very scary, it will be about life after default. [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] [ male announcer ] time and sales data. split-second stats. [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ it's so close to the options floor... [ indistinct shouting, bell dinging ] ...you'll bust your brain box. ♪ all on thinkorswim from td ameritrade. ♪ >>> is the biggest national security threat facing the pentagon actually out of control spending? up next, why cutting the defense budget is job number one for the defense secretary, barney frank will be our next guest. >>> and later, the drama sounding the so-called trillion dollar coin. so, we all set? i've got two tickets to paradise! pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singing: to tickets to... paradiiiiiise! no four. re
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the president's confidence and trust in john brennan. thank you, john, for your service and for what you will continue to do for our country. to mike morrell, who i have gotten to know over the years, not just serving on the senate intelligence committee, but also as the president has noted, the privilege of co-chairing the president's intelligence advisory board with former senator dave boren. thank you, mike are four your continued service. mr. president, i'm grateful for this opportunity to serve our country again. especially its men and women in uniform and their families. these are people who give so much to this nation every day with such dignity and selflessness. this is particularly important at a time as we complete our mission in afghanistan and support the troops and military families who have sacrificed so much over more than a decade of war. i'm also grateful for an opportunity to help continue to strengthen our country and strengthen our country's alliances and advance global freedom, decency, and humanity as we help build
the president's confidence and trust in john brennan. thank you, john, for your service and for what you will continue to do for our country. to mike morrell, who i have gotten to know over the years, not just serving on the senate intelligence committee, but also as the president has noted, the privilege of co-chairing the president's intelligence advisory board with former senator dave boren. thank you, mike are four your continued service. mr. president, i'm grateful for this opportunity to...
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." >> john brennan spent 25 years in the cia before he became the president's chief counter-terrorism adviser working inside the white house. the president considered brennan for the same job after he first got elected in 2008. brennan withdrew his name from consideration after he got associated with the enhanced interrogation techniques that had been used during the bush administration. charges brennan denied. over the past several years, brennan has been instrumental in expanding the administration's use of drone strikes fwens terror targets around the world. in fact, just hours after the nomination was announced, a u.s. drone reportedly killed eight more militants in pakistan. yesterday in the announcement at the white house, president obama praised brennan's high standards as an intelligence leader. >> he has worked to imbed our efforts in a strong legal framework. he understands we're a nation of laws. and in moments of debate and decision, he asks the tough questions and he insisted on high and rigorous standards. time and again he has spoken to the american people about our cou
." >> john brennan spent 25 years in the cia before he became the president's chief counter-terrorism adviser working inside the white house. the president considered brennan for the same job after he first got elected in 2008. brennan withdrew his name from consideration after he got associated with the enhanced interrogation techniques that had been used during the bush administration. charges brennan denied. over the past several years, brennan has been instrumental in expanding...
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kerry, you know, chuck hagel, john brennan, jack lew? >> well, fortunately, i'm going to be in a position where i'm on the armed services committee, and the foreign relations committee, so i'll get a chance to question both senators kerry and hagel, and i look forward to hearing them answer some of the tough questions that have been raised. that's what the confirmation process is about. >> do you have concerns about chuck hagel from what you know so far? >> you know, i think senator hagel deserves all of our admiration for his service in vietnam, for his service to the country as a senator from nebraska, and he would be the only enlisted man who has ever served in the military to become secretary of defense if he gets confirmed, but i do have some serious questions for him about how he would implement the amendment that i just put into the defense authorization bill to make sure that women in the military who are victims of rape or incest are able to access reproductive health services and get the same coverage that other women throughou
kerry, you know, chuck hagel, john brennan, jack lew? >> well, fortunately, i'm going to be in a position where i'm on the armed services committee, and the foreign relations committee, so i'll get a chance to question both senators kerry and hagel, and i look forward to hearing them answer some of the tough questions that have been raised. that's what the confirmation process is about. >> do you have concerns about chuck hagel from what you know so far? >> you know, i think...
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he was very careful yesterday and so was john brennan and everyone has been careful to say john brennan in the flow chart reports to dni jim clapper. isn't the president signaling that he believes, look, intelligence belongs to the cia? >> well, brennan will be a very strong leader of the cia and he has 25 years of experience at the cia. but, let's roll back the videotape. after 9/11. remember, we have the intelligence in iraq war and lots of us, i was certainly one of the ring leaders wanted to reorganize our intelligence capability so we can get it right. one thing that happened along the way, president bush 43 issued an executive order calling something the terrorist threat center. that wasn't in the law. this was an executive order. brennan became its first director and then when we passed the intelligence reform law in 2004, there were four of us who were very keen to do this. pete huxtra was my partner in the house and joe lieberman did this in the senate. when we passed this law national terrorism center. brennan was its director. he has been in at the beginning. a number of role
he was very careful yesterday and so was john brennan and everyone has been careful to say john brennan in the flow chart reports to dni jim clapper. isn't the president signaling that he believes, look, intelligence belongs to the cia? >> well, brennan will be a very strong leader of the cia and he has 25 years of experience at the cia. but, let's roll back the videotape. after 9/11. remember, we have the intelligence in iraq war and lots of us, i was certainly one of the ring leaders...
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now you have john kerry. you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have this fight, the issue with susan rice is benghazi. that ties back to the president and hillary clinton. there is -- it's not a perfect scenario. whereas here it's you're opposing hagel and that has nothing do with me. >> susan rice went to the hill, and it did not go well. there was some sort of a dry run, and it did not go well, and there's some sense that she took herself out of the nomination as well. we can't with stand this. how much do you think hagel's comments about richard hormel, i believe, who was going to serve as the u.s. ambassador to lucks emberg and questioned h
now you have john kerry. you have chuck hagel. you have brennan. i mean, i think that is also part of the pitch that they're going to make on the hill to -- for these nominations is that this is going -- think about this as the team not just the individual. >> one thing, though, i would add -- >> it's a lot of white men, but that's okay. >> what i would add is the reason they were -- part of why they were not willing to have the fight over rice, which is they areotology have...
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. >> demonstrators protest against john brennan's role in shaping controversial interrogation techniques after 9/11. matsch husband masterpiece. >> dearest mary. now you tell me all of your wedding plans, and i'll see what i can do to improve them. >> the opening night. a huge success for pbs. nearly eight million fans watched the downtown abby third season premier. we have an exclusive look behind the scenes at the making of the hit series. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in new york today. white house is now gearing up for two big confirmation fights. the president's nominees for defense secretary and cia director. joining me now for our daily fix chris alis why, msnbc contributor and managing day editor and nbc's chuck todd, chief white house correspondent political director, and host of the daily rundown here on msnbc. chuck, from the white house perspective now, where do they think they their biggest fight? i know that they feel confident going forward that they're going to be able to win the day, but as you saw in our open, even people like democrat ben carden had their doubts,
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john brennan had been a career cia figure. he had served as chief of staff to george tenet when george tenet under george bush developed their torture and secret prison program. john brennan's association with the torture and secret prison program of the george bush era of the cia is what sunk his chances for being picked as director of the cia at the start of the obama presidency. it's kind of weird. it's almost a foreign concept in american modern politics that the left might block something from happening, but it's true. liberals thought obama stopping the torture program wasn't enough. that people tarred by association with that program should not be promoted, that there should be political accountability for people who were close to the torture policy. liberals raised enough noise about john brennan's potential nomination to run the cia in 2008 and 2009 that it never happened. at least it never happened in the first obama term. now it is happening in the second obama term. now apparently with the official nomination of jo
john brennan had been a career cia figure. he had served as chief of staff to george tenet when george tenet under george bush developed their torture and secret prison program. john brennan's association with the torture and secret prison program of the george bush era of the cia is what sunk his chances for being picked as director of the cia at the start of the obama presidency. it's kind of weird. it's almost a foreign concept in american modern politics that the left might block something...
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the white house, over john brennan's nomination as cia director. why aren't people talking about the controversy surrounding him more? >> for the american people. >> thank you, america. >> helping people recover and rebuild, this's what we do. >> now, let's bring on tomorrow. >> the ad campaign is called thank you america. that's what aig is saying publicly after being rescued by the bailout. so why is the insurer now considering suing the u.s. government? you can join our conversation on twitter. what can we do with a brand new year, and a room that needs refreshing? we can work with a new collection of carpet that proves durable can be softer than ever. we can get for less and spread that softness even further. turns out, we can do even more than we thought we could. because this is the year of doing. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. roll out the new year with free whole home basic carpet installation on three rooms or more. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other h
the white house, over john brennan's nomination as cia director. why aren't people talking about the controversy surrounding him more? >> for the american people. >> thank you, america. >> helping people recover and rebuild, this's what we do. >> now, let's bring on tomorrow. >> the ad campaign is called thank you america. that's what aig is saying publicly after being rescued by the bailout. so why is the insurer now considering suing the u.s. government? you can...
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john brennan and the nomination to be head of the cia has been underreported, and i think what's striking about that is that what was controversial in 2008, and obama had to withdraw him from nomination from the cia. it hasn't been controversial. what does that say about our politics? i want to venture a bold idea which senator daniel patrick moynihan raised in legislation in both 1991 1k3 1995 which this country should think about abolishing the cia. it has a bad track record. we should take a hard look. forget hearings about president's nominees, but we need a new church committee, a new pike committee. people might go check it out. into the abuses of the security state which has grown beyond the bounds of accountability which this democracy demands. >> let's talk about the left and how they are approaching both of these, and i want to focus first on hagel. we are talking about neo conservatives and how they have come out of the wood work -- not even the wood work. they've come out against hagel. democrats are not exactly standing up for this guy, and chuck -- sorry. chuck schumer yeste
john brennan and the nomination to be head of the cia has been underreported, and i think what's striking about that is that what was controversial in 2008, and obama had to withdraw him from nomination from the cia. it hasn't been controversial. what does that say about our politics? i want to venture a bold idea which senator daniel patrick moynihan raised in legislation in both 1991 1k3 1995 which this country should think about abolishing the cia. it has a bad track record. we should take a...
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cia director from petraeus to john brennan, no change. tim geithner to jack lou, no change there. john kerry is nominated to replace secretary of state hillary clinton, that's one less woman, the possible replacement with ashton carter, one less minority. and head of the epa lisa jackson, the first black woman to hold that title, her replacement is unknown. of hundreds of senior appoint ees and nominees, 48% were minority or women according to the national journal. and 13 out of 22 of his first cabinet members were diverse. that's a record. but it's not only about ethnicity and gender, the president could potentially nominate the first openly gay cabinet member. he could choose more with business executive experience. his team head count dropped 25% on that measure. age diversity is an issue too. right now two-thirds of obama's team are baby boomers. history shows cabinet choices have lasting effects, madeleine albright's nomination was followed by 15 years of diverse secretaries of state. farther back, president lincoln's cabinet strategy as doris concerns goodwin's book describe
cia director from petraeus to john brennan, no change. tim geithner to jack lou, no change there. john kerry is nominated to replace secretary of state hillary clinton, that's one less woman, the possible replacement with ashton carter, one less minority. and head of the epa lisa jackson, the first black woman to hold that title, her replacement is unknown. of hundreds of senior appoint ees and nominees, 48% were minority or women according to the national journal. and 13 out of 22 of his first...
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obama counterterrorism adviser john brennan has made the legal case for targeted killings. some are now expressing concern over brennan in charge of the cia. and scott horton of harper's magazine reports "and the drones are just the beginning of it. the cia has its toe there, but we're going to see the cia probably take a very prominent role in robotic warfare." i'm joined tonight by greenwald, producer, director, and founder of brave new films. he is also the director of an upcoming documentary film "drones exposed" and just completed a trip to the country of pakistan. mr. greenwald, good to have you with us tonight. will there be an issue at brennan's confirmation hearings? what is the likelihood of the senate forcing a debate on drone strikes? there has been very little conversation about it. >> yes. it's actually been very sad, ed, to see how there has almost been a bipartisan silence on this issue. we're hopeful that as we educate people, as people hear more about the drones, as they learn more about them, they will call their senators and they'll say it's essential to
obama counterterrorism adviser john brennan has made the legal case for targeted killings. some are now expressing concern over brennan in charge of the cia. and scott horton of harper's magazine reports "and the drones are just the beginning of it. the cia has its toe there, but we're going to see the cia probably take a very prominent role in robotic warfare." i'm joined tonight by greenwald, producer, director, and founder of brave new films. he is also the director of an upcoming...
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however, i think like i said that obama is committed to john brennan. as his sort of adviser, the president close a relationship with him and committed as you saw with the pick yesterday. >> peter, as we look forward to what is on the agenda, immigration, gun control, tax reform, maybe some election reform, big, controversial issues, when's the white house strategy for actually getting those things passed? a lot of people have thought that the coalition of the 85 or so republicans obviously not exactly the same since we have a new congress but those 85 or so republicans who voted for the fiscal cliff deal plus the majority of the democratic caucus that that is going to be the sort of magic coalition that actually gets things accomplished in this term. is that the white house strategy? >> reporter: i think you have to consider that fiscal cliff hanger as an anomaly. people view it as such because the consequences so great. john boehner allowed a vote on that. he doesn't have to do that necessarily going forward so the strategy for the white house on thos
however, i think like i said that obama is committed to john brennan. as his sort of adviser, the president close a relationship with him and committed as you saw with the pick yesterday. >> peter, as we look forward to what is on the agenda, immigration, gun control, tax reform, maybe some election reform, big, controversial issues, when's the white house strategy for actually getting those things passed? a lot of people have thought that the coalition of the 85 or so republicans...
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>> this is going to be the most calm of all of them, it's clear that he's going to be john brennan, if he wants to stay in government, if not the other choice is the current acting head of the cia since general petraeus left michael morell. that pick we're told will come in the next day or so, possibly even packaged with chuck hagel. thank you. >>> all right, last week's fiscal cliff deal settle d some things. republicans are now demanding significant spending cuts. democrats still talking about additional tax revenue. >> we have resolved the revenue issue, the question is, what are we going to do about spending? i wish the president would lead us in this discussion or put in a position of kicking and screaming to the table about the biggest issue confronting our future. until we address the entitlements we can't solve this problem. the time to solve it is now. >> if mitch mcconnell is going to draw that line in the sandy it's going to be recipe for more grid lock. during the campaign when the -- you saw the republican candidate and paul ryan talking about all of those tax breaks and l
>> this is going to be the most calm of all of them, it's clear that he's going to be john brennan, if he wants to stay in government, if not the other choice is the current acting head of the cia since general petraeus left michael morell. that pick we're told will come in the next day or so, possibly even packaged with chuck hagel. thank you. >>> all right, last week's fiscal cliff deal settle d some things. republicans are now demanding significant spending cuts. democrats...
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and as for john brennan, we're seeing the aclu and others speak out about that nomination. protests outside the white house questioning whether john brennan spoke out loudly enough against controversial interrogation tactics. that's why brennan dropped out last time he was considered to head the cia. this time, he's courting both sides. >> although i consider myself neither a republican nor a democrat, i very much look forward to working closely with those on both sides of the aisle. >> reporter: but brennan's confirmation may not be as tough as chuck hagel's for secretary of defense. >> mr. president, i'll always give you my honest and most informed counsel. >> reporter: he backed some cuts at the pentagon, an issue congress will deal with next month. >> as a successful businessman, he knows we have to make tough fiscal choices wisely. >> reporter: republicans and democrats are concerned hagel is soft on iran and too tough on israel. > >> he's had a record of distinguished service but he's wrong on a number of the national security issues that face our country today. >> re
and as for john brennan, we're seeing the aclu and others speak out about that nomination. protests outside the white house questioning whether john brennan spoke out loudly enough against controversial interrogation tactics. that's why brennan dropped out last time he was considered to head the cia. this time, he's courting both sides. >> although i consider myself neither a republican nor a democrat, i very much look forward to working closely with those on both sides of the aisle....
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this past spring it was john brennan who gave the first ever u.s. policy address, admitting to some of our drone strikes. and defending them as both wise and legal. john brennan also this part fall told the "washington post" this -- "i think the rule should be that if we're going to take actions overseas that result in the deaths of people the united states should take responsibility for that. we should. but we don't. at least not for all of the drone strikes that we launch. the deniable drone strikes, the ones the u.s. does not take responsibility for, the ones the u.s. does not admit to even though everybody knows we're responsible for them, those are the ones that are committed as covert action. they're the ones that are launched by the cia. as john brennan has now been nominated to head the cia, he's being described as somebody who wants to bring this policy out of the dark. not that he wants to stop killing people using this particular tool, but he thinks we should do it in a way that is more accountable. he specifically thinks we ought to admi
this past spring it was john brennan who gave the first ever u.s. policy address, admitting to some of our drone strikes. and defending them as both wise and legal. john brennan also this part fall told the "washington post" this -- "i think the rule should be that if we're going to take actions overseas that result in the deaths of people the united states should take responsibility for that. we should. but we don't. at least not for all of the drone strikes that we launch. the...
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senate and he's been an adviser to him now in the white house and then john brennan at cia, someone who's been by his side for four years. >> what is the strategy? first read mentions jack reid and the statement praising chuck hagel. what's the strategy? you have people wondering why not take up the fight for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as ten different democratic senators opposed to chuck hagel and it's going to be up to the white house to wage a significant campaign using some democrats like senator jack reid from rhode island to win them over. the white house probably decided that they needed to go ahead and fight for chuck hagel in this matter. i've heard from the white house that the susan rice and john kerry were pretty much tied folks going in to that state department gig. president obama going with john kerry but you are seeing the white house going for a full throttled fight to get and to win chuck hagel and not going to be easy. >> mark murray, thank you so much. happy new year. see you tomorrow. >> thanks. >>> a
senate and he's been an adviser to him now in the white house and then john brennan at cia, someone who's been by his side for four years. >> what is the strategy? first read mentions jack reid and the statement praising chuck hagel. what's the strategy? you have people wondering why not take up the fight for susan rice and how are the dynamics different? >> as chuck todd pointed out, there are as many as ten different democratic senators opposed to chuck hagel and it's going to be...
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democrats publicly criticizing cia nominee, john brennan. my gaggle's going to join me next early as we prepare for hagel and other stuff. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. a quiet day for him on the record, with the focus on chuck hagel. but vice president biden, by the way, goes up to capitol hill to meet with senate democrats on guns. you're watching "the daily rundown," only on msnbc. people love our potpourri parties. it's a smell of a good time. this is the juniper! oh that is magical. [ male announcer ] when you combine creamy velveeta with zesty rotel tomatoes and green chiles, you'll get a bowl of queso that makes even this get-together better. you'll get a bowl of queso so if ydead battery,t tire, need a tow or lock your keys in the car, geico's emergency roadside assistance is there 24/7. oh dear, i got a flat tire. hmmm. uh... yeah, can you find a take where it's a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!! well it's good... good for me. what do you
democrats publicly criticizing cia nominee, john brennan. my gaggle's going to join me next early as we prepare for hagel and other stuff. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. a quiet day for him on the record, with the focus on chuck hagel. but vice president biden, by the way, goes up to capitol hill to meet with senate democrats on guns. you're watching "the daily rundown," only on msnbc. people love our potpourri parties. it's a smell of a good time. this is the...
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now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of torture or enhanced interrogation techniques as they're known by some. does this present mr. brennan with some real challenge given his oversight of enhanced interrogation techniques under the previous administration? >> well, i mean, since he was there in the previous administration, if the senate wants to ask him those questions, then, yes, they will provide some discomfort for him, but remember when president obama came into office, it was he who said we are no longer doing this. this is not who we are as a country, and so if the senate wants to litigate past battles that even the president of the united states doesn't want to litigate, then that's on them. >> okay. final question to you, jimmy, how do you think his leadership, mr. brennan's leadership, will differ from that of the outgoing director, leon panetta? >> panetta was a creature of congress, a member of congress from the california delegation i think for over 20 y
now, john, john brennan has 25 years of service at the cia. he's expected to be questioned rigorously on the issue of torture or enhanced interrogation techniques as they're known by some. does this present mr. brennan with some real challenge given his oversight of enhanced interrogation techniques under the previous administration? >> well, i mean, since he was there in the previous administration, if the senate wants to ask him those questions, then, yes, they will provide some...
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we are talking about john brennan. he's been instrumental in devicing the strategy for wage what can is no longer called officially the war on terror but is something. you know, activities in a whole bunch of countries and a lot of targets killing. and one of the questions i think on the table is -- what role he has played in that. and also this kind of accountability question. i wanted to bring into the conversation, we were talking about the kill list. i also wondered when we talked about accountability, to bring in the story offen. >> -- i think it's important, these two things are happening in the same week. which he's the cia agent on the 25th and he agreed to serve 35 months. he e-mailed the name of a covert cia officer to a reporter and in the midst of a. >> reporter:ing out what was going on with the torture regime in the cia. he's the first current or former cia officer of disclosing classified information to a reporter and he is, as of now, the only person that's going to do jail time for their involvement in
we are talking about john brennan. he's been instrumental in devicing the strategy for wage what can is no longer called officially the war on terror but is something. you know, activities in a whole bunch of countries and a lot of targets killing. and one of the questions i think on the table is -- what role he has played in that. and also this kind of accountability question. i wanted to bring into the conversation, we were talking about the kill list. i also wondered when we talked about...
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>> from hagel to the other name on everybody's lips in dc, john brennan. a member of the president's inner circle brennan was up for the job of top spot four years ago but bowed out amid questions of ties to enhanced interrogation techniques used during the bush administration. hagel and brennan would join senator john kerry already nominated to lead the state department in shaping and rounding out the foreign policy of president obama's second term in office. >>> let's dig in right now. joining me is former new hampshire senator judd gregg. also cnbc contributor who served with chuck hagel in the senate. great to have you here with me this morning. as we put your qualifications out there as someone who served with hagel in the past, i want to play for you and remind everybody what senator lindsey gr graham had to say over the weekend in reference to the fact that the service of hagel, while honorable, might be questioned now in this new post. >> i like chuck hagel. he s
>> from hagel to the other name on everybody's lips in dc, john brennan. a member of the president's inner circle brennan was up for the job of top spot four years ago but bowed out amid questions of ties to enhanced interrogation techniques used during the bush administration. hagel and brennan would join senator john kerry already nominated to lead the state department in shaping and rounding out the foreign policy of president obama's second term in office. >>> let's dig in...
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brennan for director of the central intelligence agency. >> republicans are spoiling for a fight, so they just want to pick a fight. >> quite frankly, chuck hague sel out of the mainstream thinking on most issues regarding foreign policy. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. >> they just want to pick a fight. >> if hagel is nominated, it's very difficult to imagine a circumstance in which i can support his confirmation. >> i think it would be a lot of tough questions. >> one of the few secretaries who had been wounded in a war, and the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. >> this is an in your face nomination by the president. >> with chuck our troops will always know, just like sergeant hagel was there for his own brother, secretary hagel will be there for you. ♪ >> referee: we begin on a busy monday afternoon in washington, and the president has dared republicans to make good on their threats to oppose his nomination for defense secretary. chuck hagel is the leader our troops deserve said the president. just a short time ago at
brennan for director of the central intelligence agency. >> republicans are spoiling for a fight, so they just want to pick a fight. >> quite frankly, chuck hague sel out of the mainstream thinking on most issues regarding foreign policy. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. he is an american patriot. >> they just want to pick a fight. >> if hagel is nominated, it's very difficult to imagine a circumstance in which i can support his confirmation....
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. >> he clearly has a great affection for john brennan and certainly for chuck hagel, and perhaps not as close with john kerry. >> the president's problem with dealing with any issue is making decisions on the basis of imperfect information. you never know as much as you would like to know about a situation. he appreciates different perspectives and different evaluations that give him the confidence that all of the angles have been discussed to the point that they can, and that he goes in to making a decision based on the best possible information, and i think that's what chuck hagel will give him. >> donald, i want to ask you about your close friend, co-author, the man you served, george herbert walker bush. how is president bush doing? >> i think he is doing much better now. >> that's good to hear. >> he had some respiratory problems that they were very afraid would go into a serious form of pneumonia. i talked to him a few days ago, and is he his old self sdwloosh how are his spirits? >> his spirits are fine. >> well, please convey our very best wishes. the whole country is pulling
. >> he clearly has a great affection for john brennan and certainly for chuck hagel, and perhaps not as close with john kerry. >> the president's problem with dealing with any issue is making decisions on the basis of imperfect information. you never know as much as you would like to know about a situation. he appreciates different perspectives and different evaluations that give him the confidence that all of the angles have been discussed to the point that they can, and that he...
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also part of that announcement, nominating john brennan as cia director. it's the hagel pick that has been scrutinized. >> he has long severed his ties with the republican party. this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us who are supportive of israel. >> hagel's record is very, very troubling on the nation of israel. he has not been a friend to israel. in my view the united states should stand unshakably with the nation of israel. and he has consistently advocated weakness with respect to our enemy. >> i think it would be a lot of tough questions of senator hagel. but he'll be treated fairly by republicans in the senate. >> i want to bring in matt welch, editor in chief for reason magazine and perry bacon, political editor for thegrio.com. president obama nominated john kerry for secretary of state before christmas. now he's running out his national security team, chuck hagel, john brennan. the president essentially walked away from susan rice. why does he want this fight? >> it's a great political idea on his behalf. if there's a big
also part of that announcement, nominating john brennan as cia director. it's the hagel pick that has been scrutinized. >> he has long severed his ties with the republican party. this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us who are supportive of israel. >> hagel's record is very, very troubling on the nation of israel. he has not been a friend to israel. in my view the united states should stand unshakably with the nation of israel. and he has consistently...
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lindsey graham says he's going to put a hold on john brennan. are they going to have to say guys, you have to pick one. you can't fight them all because the obstruction charge then starts. >> i think the idea of holds is maybe a little bit farfetched. you know, even those who are sounding pretty tough about chuck hagel indicate they think he'll get confirmed. but they want to ask tough questions. i think it's tough to beat a senator over policy issues. even if the issue is real. i think john brennan is going to face questions about the leak investigation. maybe on the left over some of the, you know, enhanced interrogation issues. you know -- i don't see any of these things bubbling up to the point where you actually get a hold. you know, we'll see. but i don't see that. but i see the hagel nomination certainly being tough. >> and i want to turn to guns here a minute. we're seeing -- it's funny, the white house has a very vehement reaction to the "new york times" story this morning, saying they are just wrong, they are not backing off an assault
lindsey graham says he's going to put a hold on john brennan. are they going to have to say guys, you have to pick one. you can't fight them all because the obstruction charge then starts. >> i think the idea of holds is maybe a little bit farfetched. you know, even those who are sounding pretty tough about chuck hagel indicate they think he'll get confirmed. but they want to ask tough questions. i think it's tough to beat a senator over policy issues. even if the issue is real. i think...
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. >> south carolina senator lindsey graham said he could put a hold on cia nominee john brennan's nomination until the white house addresses questions about benghazi again. quote -- i do not believe we should confirm anyone as director of the cia until our questions are answered, like who changed ambassador susan rice's talking points and deleted the references to al qaeda. my support for a delaying confirmation is not directed at mr. brennan but is an unfortunate yet necessary action to get information from this administration. the white house is trying to sell, meanwhile, back on hagel, trying to sell hagel's personal story. and no one may tell that better than his brother, tom, who served alongside him in vietnam and described to nbc how they narrowly escaped death together. >> the concussion was incredible. it knocked us both down. and he was behind me and i looked back and he was flat on his back, blood all over his chest. so i went back. things come up where he's being criticized for this or that or the other thing, or we're both having problem. we look at each other and say, you know,
. >> south carolina senator lindsey graham said he could put a hold on cia nominee john brennan's nomination until the white house addresses questions about benghazi again. quote -- i do not believe we should confirm anyone as director of the cia until our questions are answered, like who changed ambassador susan rice's talking points and deleted the references to al qaeda. my support for a delaying confirmation is not directed at mr. brennan but is an unfortunate yet necessary action to...
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so, if john brennan is confirmed, it is interesting to see if there's a move to greater transparency and to moving the program from the cia to the military. >> absolutely, yeah. all right. >>> shifting gears a bit here up next the secrets of super achievers. the traits funny man alec baldwin, baseball great yogi berra and ken jennings share and apparently you can, too. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick wit
so, if john brennan is confirmed, it is interesting to see if there's a move to greater transparency and to moving the program from the cia to the military. >> absolutely, yeah. all right. >>> shifting gears a bit here up next the secrets of super achievers. the traits funny man alec baldwin, baseball great yogi berra and ken jennings share and apparently you can, too. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all...
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that is why john brennan didn't get the nomination to run the cia in the first time around. so his confirmation hearings this time around, february 7th, should be very interested. there is controversy there. the other nomination, where there used to be suspense, is former republican senator chuck hagel, i say there used to be suspense, because there were questions about whether there would be fight from the left have dried up. chris coombs, all have met with mr. hagel this week, he assuaged their worries, ditto, charles schumer, of new york, he addressed criticism of his hard-line anti-gay and anti-abortion political past. he addressed that criticism, where they largely neutralized it. ahead of his confirmation hearings on thursday, republicans are making noises about chuck hagel. the only strange remaining might be evidence of any interesting and therefore important resistance to chuck hagel is probably this ad, you might have seen from an unknown group called "use your mandate." >> chuck hagel, he has been nominated to be secretary of defense. and president obama nominated
that is why john brennan didn't get the nomination to run the cia in the first time around. so his confirmation hearings this time around, february 7th, should be very interested. there is controversy there. the other nomination, where there used to be suspense, is former republican senator chuck hagel, i say there used to be suspense, because there were questions about whether there would be fight from the left have dried up. chris coombs, all have met with mr. hagel this week, he assuaged...
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brennan. >> reporter: i think that that's right. there's no doubt about that. this certainly gives him a little bit of time and space after, you know, scrutiny being on him. but, again, i think that, you know, this is big news today, that schumer came out and said that he is going to support hagel moving forward. i think a lot of eyes were sort of waiting for this decision, watching to see what would happen, and you're right, gives john brennan a little bit more room moving forward. >> kristin welker, as ever, thank you so much. >> thanks, martin. >> and we'll be right back. my insurance rates are probably gonna double. but, dad, you've got... [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. are you in good hands? [ voice of dennis ] indeed. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift
brennan. >> reporter: i think that that's right. there's no doubt about that. this certainly gives him a little bit of time and space after, you know, scrutiny being on him. but, again, i think that, you know, this is big news today, that schumer came out and said that he is going to support hagel moving forward. i think a lot of eyes were sort of waiting for this decision, watching to see what would happen, and you're right, gives john brennan a little bit more room moving forward....
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especially with the appointment of john brennan and as we look at john kerry and chuck hagel. in terms of u.s. national security and foreign policy, the get month trials, however, we -- there was a lot of discussion, a lot of hub bub when they were going to be in new york, but here they are beginning in guantanamo bay, and there is very little discussion about the fact that they are happening there. you guys have challenged the sort of legitimacy of these. the nation writes today "at guantanamo the government is still making up the law as it goes along. the military commissions are just one piece of a larger disturbing trend towards centralized presidential power with virtually no oversight or transparency. your thoughts on that? >> well, the problem both with guantanamo and with targeted killing is we have rule of law violations and also we have national security problems continuing when we keep guantanamo open and use targeted drone killings as a centerpiece of our foreign policy. so let's talk about guantanamo. the military commissions are dogged today by the same issues th
especially with the appointment of john brennan and as we look at john kerry and chuck hagel. in terms of u.s. national security and foreign policy, the get month trials, however, we -- there was a lot of discussion, a lot of hub bub when they were going to be in new york, but here they are beginning in guantanamo bay, and there is very little discussion about the fact that they are happening there. you guys have challenged the sort of legitimacy of these. the nation writes today "at...
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brennan would be the most controversial. he's the one no one is talking about. >> that's right. you can look at all these candidates, hagel and lew, mainstream candidates who represent the president's positions flawlessly, are a stark contrast with the bush administration, therefore the republicans might have beef with him, but that's just not happening. we're being surprised when clearly it's part of a broader strategy to discredit the very idea of government. yes, the polls show that congress is more unpopular than head lice. >> and cockroaches. >> nickelback. >> castro still slightly more unpopular, but i think they can fix that. long term, that's not how people see it. long term, people go government, can't get anything gun. it casts it on the whole enterprise. >> hans, i want to bring you back in this for a second to talk about the ethicacy of a choice of jack lew as head of the treasury department. when we began this fiscal slope, curve, cliff discussion, tim geithner was involved, there was a sense jack lew would be i
brennan would be the most controversial. he's the one no one is talking about. >> that's right. you can look at all these candidates, hagel and lew, mainstream candidates who represent the president's positions flawlessly, are a stark contrast with the bush administration, therefore the republicans might have beef with him, but that's just not happening. we're being surprised when clearly it's part of a broader strategy to discredit the very idea of government. yes, the polls show that...
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brennan to lead the central intelligence agency and former nebraska senator chuck hagel to take over at the pentagon where he will presumably join senator john kerry at state to form the nuke leus of president obama's second term foreign policy team. the decision to nominate hagel continued to rankel some in the gop. >> chuck hagel is out of the mainstream of thinking i believe on most issues regarding foreign policy. he has long severed his ties with the republican party. this is an in your face nomination by the president to all of us who are supportive of israel. chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense toward the state of israel in our nation's history. >> if confirmed, hagel would be the first enlisted soldier to run the pentagon, but while the decorated vietnam veteran, a recipient of not one, but two purple hearts, is sure to betop popular among the rank-and-file, one of the primary tasks facing the next secretary of defense will be slimming the military budget, something hagel has had no qualms about in the past
brennan to lead the central intelligence agency and former nebraska senator chuck hagel to take over at the pentagon where he will presumably join senator john kerry at state to form the nuke leus of president obama's second term foreign policy team. the decision to nominate hagel continued to rankel some in the gop. >> chuck hagel is out of the mainstream of thinking i believe on most issues regarding foreign policy. he has long severed his ties with the republican party. this is an in...
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that picture -- the general picture you showed before the segment of the top level appointees, john brennan we didn't mention, all being men. it is a change. it is a little disturbing. and the departure of somebody as luminous as hillary clinton, too, makes it feel more stark and more like, you know, really something that should be corrected. and i don't -- i think he will in future appointments. but he doesn't have a chance to correct those top, top appointments. >> your thoughts? you lived through all this. you know what affirmative action looks like. that's not affirmative action. >> no. i preach diversity and will preach it to the president. it's a process and you keep working at it. >> what should -- we worked it with the producers today. trying to frame this question. things happen like this organically. people know people. we know how it works. what is it he didn't do that he should have done affirmatively? >> did he borrow, you know, one of romney's binders full of women or something like that? apparently he didn't. diversity, it has to happen on all levels. so you look for somebody
that picture -- the general picture you showed before the segment of the top level appointees, john brennan we didn't mention, all being men. it is a change. it is a little disturbing. and the departure of somebody as luminous as hillary clinton, too, makes it feel more stark and more like, you know, really something that should be corrected. and i don't -- i think he will in future appointments. but he doesn't have a chance to correct those top, top appointments. >> your thoughts? you...
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brennan, the drone program, he took himself out of contention in 2008. nothing has been said about him. >> because he is low key and on the radar screen from the public, and it not one of the big three. >> might check in with rachel maddow. >> i was going to say, i also think it's because there's been an acquessence. >> the republicans like drones. >> bernie sanders is planting a flag in jack lew's -- >> he represents the entire left of the democratic party? >> one wing of the very progressive left. you are just moving it like a very far -- a tad -- i'm not saying anything against senators here on this show, but i think -- >> bernie is a greet graet guy, but it's a tiny little wing. it's probably a little fet zeesh fet other the wing. >> wow. feathers and wicks. we need to take a break. president obama breaks bread with hamid karzai at the white house, but will they break from his withdrawal plans from afghanistan? we will have a live update on the meeting after this. (dog) larry,larry,larrryyy. why take exercise so seriously,when it can be fun? push-ups
brennan, the drone program, he took himself out of contention in 2008. nothing has been said about him. >> because he is low key and on the radar screen from the public, and it not one of the big three. >> might check in with rachel maddow. >> i was going to say, i also think it's because there's been an acquessence. >> the republicans like drones. >> bernie sanders is planting a flag in jack lew's -- >> he represents the entire left of the democratic party?...
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president obama named chuck hagel for defense and john brennan to the cia. president obama had previously named senator kerry as the new secretary of state, which has now been confirmed. and on the first day of this year, the president and vice president secured the fiscal cliff deal. now, folks, those are just the highlights. but congressional republicans think the president should get to work? here is what happened in the house of representatives today. >> without objection, the house stands adjourned until friday, februa february 1st, 2013. >> friday february 1st? they're cutting out. they're going somewhere, not working. let's bring in bob shrum, contributor of the daily beast. bob, good to have you with us tonight. >> glad to be here, ed. >> you bet. this is quite a strategy to jab at the president like this when they have probably taken more time off than anybody in america in the month of january. does this win? >> no, look. it's a tweet that makes john boehner look like a twit. it's a juvenile move. but there is a method to it. they got to keep their
president obama named chuck hagel for defense and john brennan to the cia. president obama had previously named senator kerry as the new secretary of state, which has now been confirmed. and on the first day of this year, the president and vice president secured the fiscal cliff deal. now, folks, those are just the highlights. but congressional republicans think the president should get to work? here is what happened in the house of representatives today. >> without objection, the house...
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the third name to mention is john brennan. john brennan is going to be nominated to head the cia probably today. brennan is very close to the president. i'm told that if there's one person he relies on in the most secret inner debates, it's john brennan who's been his chief counterterrorism and intelligence adviser. john brennan is going to go over to run the cia. in the three branches, he'll have people who were his people. you couldn't say that about gates. he couldn't say that about secretary clinton. and now have that team. and i think that's, again, don't think entirely about the fight ahead. think about what he's trying to accomplish with this group. why he wants them. >> that is the question.brennan goes as planned. what would that mean for the direction of u.s. foreign policy and the president's foreign policy doctrine, and how would it differ from the first four years? >> what that tells you, i think, mika, is this president is serious about completing this process of withdrawal of u.s. troops. kerry and hagel have bo
the third name to mention is john brennan. john brennan is going to be nominated to head the cia probably today. brennan is very close to the president. i'm told that if there's one person he relies on in the most secret inner debates, it's john brennan who's been his chief counterterrorism and intelligence adviser. john brennan is going to go over to run the cia. in the three branches, he'll have people who were his people. you couldn't say that about gates. he couldn't say that about...
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he can put john brennan at the cia and have john kerry at the secretary of state. all reflecting the values of barack obama and obama doctrine that a lot of people expected. >> you also wrote he probably regrets the afghan surge, but he can never say it because soldiers died. >> a lot of us -- the prospects for peace were always bleak. the ability to nation build in a country like that and to be able to raise the number of troops you would have to have in a country like that to be able to put that on the footing is exceedingly difficult. very difficult. there is no alternative economy to copy for a lot of farmers that are there that makes heroin and opium for heroin, that is a very difficult situation for the united states to be in. i think we are starting to see vice president biden's advice where he said they needed to drawdown and do more covert operations and a narrow policy. that's more what you are starting to see. president obama can never say politically that they regretted the surge. they handed off the security to afghanis, but there is note much change i
he can put john brennan at the cia and have john kerry at the secretary of state. all reflecting the values of barack obama and obama doctrine that a lot of people expected. >> you also wrote he probably regrets the afghan surge, but he can never say it because soldiers died. >> a lot of us -- the prospects for peace were always bleak. the ability to nation build in a country like that and to be able to raise the number of troops you would have to have in a country like that to be...